I wasn't asking you to share links to random articles, I was asking YOU to make an argument. Also, half of these things aren't related to what we're even discussing here. We're not talking college admissions where I think asian parents especially had a legitimate case for harm.
Take my kid in D65, he's white - what harm is being done to him such that the federal government needs to step in to stop things like offering the "books and breakfast" program to black kids?
They don't, which is why I used this as an example. There are lots of community programs like this, designed to help lift up black or hispanic folks but not necessarily exclusionary to white folks. But these dudes get offended at even programs like this.
If he's being excluded from that program based on his race then he is being harmed and its illegal.
If there was a program at your school offered only to white kids you would be up in arms about it. If flipping the races changes your opinion you are part of the problem.
I am willing to put my real name behind my arguments and donтАЩt need to hide behind an anonymous account. I think YOU are part of the problem, Mr Anonymous. You believe in the cause so strongly that youтАЩre not even brave enough to use your real name. Own it.
My kid is not hurt by this program because I never applied to have him be part of it.
You are willing to put your real name behind the consensus opinions of your peers and the powerful. Stunning and Brave!
It doesn't matter whether your kid applied to the program or not. Someone else might have or would have if they didn't know they were excluded. And the resources used for it can't be used for other (race neutral) programs.
More importantly, you have accepted the idea that it is OK to discriminate against people based on their race. Once accepting this principal it can be applied in other areas.
What are you talking about? I've been the most critical of the District's equity programming, in public over the last two years. Where have you been? I took a lot of heat.
I could go on and on. Of anyone in this town, I've been the most publicly critical of the equity programming, I think it's largely ineffective and a waste of money. I wrote a fucking story on wasted equity money LAST WEEK:
But I don't think it's discriminatory. Tons of government programs allocate resources to specific groups and exclude others. You're just butthurt because it's black folks getting resources.
"Tons of government programs allocate resources to specific groups and exclude others."
"But I don't think it's discriminatory."
Are you literally capable of reading these two sentences next to on another without seeing the contradiction? Is your brain capable of such levels of cognitive dissonance?
As a description of how the government has behaved, it's certainly been acting illegally for a long time. That's lamentable, but that issue is now being addressed.
"You're just butthurt because it's black folks getting resources."
Giving special privilege to blacks is the same as denying it to whites (or anyone else). Just because you're OK with that doesn't mean others are and it's illegal.
I don't feel the white guilt that apparently drives your soul.
Drives my soul? Come on, man. Again, I've written more things critical of this stuff than anyone else in town and not hiding behind an anonymous account. What are you afraid of? That someone might say something mean about you on a facebook group? ЁЯШн
Let's work through some examples:
Take the mortgage interest deduction - this is a tax break that massively benefits homeowners, particularly people who own large homes because they can write off the interest paid on a mortgage on their taxes. Is this program discriminatory against renters?
Or what about your precious women's sports? Publicly funded universities massively overfund men's athletic programs compared to women's athletic programs. Is this discrimination against women? Should Universities be required to fund equally, lest they lose federal funding?
If you're going to claim this is discrimination then you have to be consistent and argue that those are discrimination as well. If you want to have truly egalitarian federal funding policies, that's fine, but lets call a spade a spade.
At least you can admit that it's discrimination because you say it is, not because there was actually genuine harm (besides your sensitive feelings)
So to be clear you:
1) Discriminate against certain races (this is easy enough to prove mathematically and has been proven in court cases).
2) Advocate the teaching of discrimination to children and their educators.
Prove mathematically? Show me your math then
https://www.oyez.org/cases/2022/20-1199
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/NYPICHPDPICT000013391060.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELH_lj5WkAAxfay.jpg
https://unherd.com/newsroom/top-high-school-sees-major-decline-following-dei-admissions-policy/
Etc Etc
I wasn't asking you to share links to random articles, I was asking YOU to make an argument. Also, half of these things aren't related to what we're even discussing here. We're not talking college admissions where I think asian parents especially had a legitimate case for harm.
Take my kid in D65, he's white - what harm is being done to him such that the federal government needs to step in to stop things like offering the "books and breakfast" program to black kids?
For what itтАЩs worth, the Books for Breakfast program has no identity restrictions. They donтАЩt even mention identity categories on their website:
https://www.booksbreakfast.org/
They don't, which is why I used this as an example. There are lots of community programs like this, designed to help lift up black or hispanic folks but not necessarily exclusionary to white folks. But these dudes get offended at even programs like this.
If he's being excluded from that program based on his race then he is being harmed and its illegal.
If there was a program at your school offered only to white kids you would be up in arms about it. If flipping the races changes your opinion you are part of the problem.
I am willing to put my real name behind my arguments and donтАЩt need to hide behind an anonymous account. I think YOU are part of the problem, Mr Anonymous. You believe in the cause so strongly that youтАЩre not even brave enough to use your real name. Own it.
My kid is not hurt by this program because I never applied to have him be part of it.
You are willing to put your real name behind the consensus opinions of your peers and the powerful. Stunning and Brave!
It doesn't matter whether your kid applied to the program or not. Someone else might have or would have if they didn't know they were excluded. And the resources used for it can't be used for other (race neutral) programs.
More importantly, you have accepted the idea that it is OK to discriminate against people based on their race. Once accepting this principal it can be applied in other areas.
What are you talking about? I've been the most critical of the District's equity programming, in public over the last two years. Where have you been? I took a lot of heat.
https://www.foiagras.com/p/evanston-and-new-triers-partnership
https://www.foiagras.com/p/vendor-profile-pacific-education
https://www.foiagras.com/p/district-65-consultant-who-skipped
I could go on and on. Of anyone in this town, I've been the most publicly critical of the equity programming, I think it's largely ineffective and a waste of money. I wrote a fucking story on wasted equity money LAST WEEK:
https://www.foiagras.com/p/the-curious-case-of-the-missing-333000
But I don't think it's discriminatory. Tons of government programs allocate resources to specific groups and exclude others. You're just butthurt because it's black folks getting resources.
"Tons of government programs allocate resources to specific groups and exclude others."
"But I don't think it's discriminatory."
Are you literally capable of reading these two sentences next to on another without seeing the contradiction? Is your brain capable of such levels of cognitive dissonance?
As a description of how the government has behaved, it's certainly been acting illegally for a long time. That's lamentable, but that issue is now being addressed.
"You're just butthurt because it's black folks getting resources."
Giving special privilege to blacks is the same as denying it to whites (or anyone else). Just because you're OK with that doesn't mean others are and it's illegal.
I don't feel the white guilt that apparently drives your soul.
Drives my soul? Come on, man. Again, I've written more things critical of this stuff than anyone else in town and not hiding behind an anonymous account. What are you afraid of? That someone might say something mean about you on a facebook group? ЁЯШн
Let's work through some examples:
Take the mortgage interest deduction - this is a tax break that massively benefits homeowners, particularly people who own large homes because they can write off the interest paid on a mortgage on their taxes. Is this program discriminatory against renters?
Or what about your precious women's sports? Publicly funded universities massively overfund men's athletic programs compared to women's athletic programs. Is this discrimination against women? Should Universities be required to fund equally, lest they lose federal funding?
If you're going to claim this is discrimination then you have to be consistent and argue that those are discrimination as well. If you want to have truly egalitarian federal funding policies, that's fine, but lets call a spade a spade.